Both Lucky and Liz were at fault with the matches IMO

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vgeneration81	Both Lucky and Liz were at fault with the matches IMO		Lead	[-]
Posts: 88 01/11/08 8:43 PM	Tags : None Both of them saw that the matches were on the floor, so before they started discussing anything, they both should have picked up those matches and put them somewhere where Cam couldn't reach them. I know Lucky is going to blame Liz for this but he also saw those matches on the floor and didn't pick them up. So he is much to blame as Liz. Another thing that makes this storyline stupid, who the heck would give a 3 year old matches??? Do the writers think were stupid or something?????? Stupid writing.. IMO.. Also I'm a Liz fan and I think Liz should have gave Cam more of a lecture then what she did. I thought she was being too Nice. I would have grabbed those matches and send him to his room. I wouldn't even have allowed him to go outside. That's just my opinion though. I've been reading on other boards where they say that Liz was giving Cam attitude and stuff. All I have to say is what was she suppose to do? He had matches in his hand. Was she suppose to just be nice to him?? I would have had attitude as well if I saw my 3 year old playing with matches, again JMO I don't think Liz was 100% to blame in this though . Last Edited By: vgeneration81 01/11/08 8:52 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Timmy8271		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 849 01/11/08 10:45 PM Soapsite's Bad Boy!	I just want to know how a 3 year old knows to strike the box to light the matches? That's one smart kid. It took me till at least 4 to do that the first time. And who uses matches anymore? Don't most people have lighters now? What's next, the kid going to smoke a joint with Spinelli while pimping out Kristina? Fire Frons Now.
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corduroyfire		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 103 01/12/08 10:58 AM	really? well I guess if it took YOU until you were four then it is totally preposterous to think it could be done a year earlier.
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Jaydol		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1544 01/12/08 11:32 AM	My neighbor's kid was younger than Cam and he started a fire, playing with matches, that burned the house down.
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psychobunny1		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2951 01/12/08 11:37 AM	Lucky saw the matches? I don't recall that, did I happen to miss the scene where Lucky noticed the matches?
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vgeneration81		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/12/08 12:34 PM	Yes he saw them. He picked them up and gave them to Liz and she put them on the mantle. Liz told him about the matches as soon as he got in.
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cherokee76		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11204 01/12/08 12:52 PM Southern Proud and Texas Stubborn~~SS Game On's MODERATOR	Lucky is going to blame Liz for this but he also saw those matches on the floor and didn't pick them up. So he is much to blame as Liz. Either he did pick them up or he didn't. It can't be both. Liz should kid proof her house. Lucky doesn't live there.
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vgeneration81		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/12/08 2:12 PM	cherokee76 wrote: Lucky is going to blame Liz for this but he also saw those matches on the floor and didn't pick them up. So he is much to blame as Liz. Either he did pick them up or he didn't. It can't be both. Liz should kid proof her house. Lucky doesn't live there. This has nothing to do with Liz keeping her house kid proof. I know you hate Liz but your not making sense. Liz keeping her house kid proof has no affect as to how Cam got the matches in the first place. He walked in with the matches. So obviously Liz didn't give him the matches. Also Just because Lucky dosen't live there anymore dosen't mean anything. He saw that the matches were there before they got into a heated discussion they both should have been responsible parents and made sure that all the matches were picked up. Lucky dosen't get off the hook for this just because he dosen't llive there anymore. He saw that the matches were there.
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AudreyNSebastiansMom		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 93 01/12/08 2:43 PM	I think Liz kid proofing her house had a lot to do with it. I've got a 4 year old boy who will grab and play wtih anything in his reach. SO I keep dangerous stuff (ie matches) either locked up or where he can't reach them. It's HER responsibility to keep dangerous things away from her children. She's been failing miserably.
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vgeneration81		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/12/08 3:10 PM	No it dosen't have anything to do with it because we don't know how Cam got the matches in the first place. Liz didn't give him the matches. So waht does that have to do with kid proofing her house? Also we don't know where these matches were. For all we know his friend could have given him the matches. So I still don't see how this has anything to do with Liz. We didn't kid proof our house. So I guess that makes us bad people . I'm sorry but Lucky is at fault for not making sure that all the matches were not picked up in the first place. They are both at fault.
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psychobunny1		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2951 01/12/08 4:22 PM	So Lucky picked up the matches? So then It was Liz's job to keep them out of Cam's reach. And why is Liz just sending her kid out in the Front Yard to play... where he can get kidnapped or hit by a car. And wasn't he playng with the kid whose mom supposedly lets him play with matches? Why isn't Liz watching fromt he window or sending him in the backyard to play.
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AudreyNSebastiansMom		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 93 01/12/08 4:40 PM	she found him with matches....when she took them, she should've either locked them somewhere or put them someplace where Cam couldn't reach. And no way should she have sent him outside to play by himself. That's just plain stupid.
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vgeneration81		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/12/08 5:17 PM	She did try to take them. He threw them on the floor. Which is why the matches ended up on the floor in the first place. Liz did nothing wrong. Seriously accdients happen. Liz isn't a bad mother just like Lucky isn't a bad father. However before they got into a heated discussion they both as parents who love there kids should have made sure that there wasn't any matches on the floor.
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vgeneration81		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/12/08 5:19 PM	pyschobunny She did. She put them on the Mantal where he couldn't reach but Lucky must of missed some because there was still a few on the floor. This is a soap opera. Should we start question all the parents motives on a soap now?
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cherokee76		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11204 01/12/08 9:26 PM Southern Proud and Texas Stubborn~~SS Game On's MODERATOR	No it dosen't have anything to do with it because we don't know how Cam got the matches in the first place. Liz didn't give him the matches. So waht does that have to do with kid proofing her house? I guess Cam must have brought the matches home from his last trip to the bar because Liz would never keep matches in her house with kids around. Cam grabbed the box of matches off the desk took one out and struck it on the box that was clearly within his reach. Of course thats not Liz's fault. Carly or Sam probably set him up.
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vgeneration81		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/13/08 12:23 AM	cherokee. We didn't see how Cam got the matches. All we know is that his friend's mother allows her child to play with matches. For all we know he could have gotten it from his friend or his mother. Why must you make up these stories?
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psychobunny1		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2951 01/13/08 4:52 AM	vgeneration81 wrote: pyschobunny She did. She put them on the Mantal where he couldn't reach but Lucky must of missed some because there was still a few on the floor. This is a soap opera. Should we start question all the parents motives on a soap now? It wasn't some, it was a whole box. As it is Liz's house, it is her responsibility it is child proof. Liz should have been paying more attention. Also sending your child to play in the front yard is dangerous.
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psychobunny1		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2951 01/13/08 4:53 AM	vgeneration81 wrote: cherokee. We didn't see how Cam got the matches. All we know is that his friend's mother allows her child to play with matches. For all we know he could have gotten it from his friend or his mother. Why must you make up these stories? Why would Liz allow her child to be around another mother who allows her child to play with matches? Why would she not speak to that mother?
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cherokee76		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11204 01/13/08 10:07 AM Southern Proud and Texas Stubborn~~SS Game On's MODERATOR	We didn't see how Cam got the matches. I didn't see where he got them from the first time but I definately saw where he got them when he started the fire. On the desk right at eye level to a toddler. Thats clearly not the neighbor ladys fault.
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vgeneration81		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/13/08 12:43 PM	psychobunny1 Like I said before they got into a heated debate they both should have made sure that the matches were all picked up. They are both at fault and just because it's Liz's house she is not 100% at fault, since Lucky was the one that was picking them up, he should have made sure that he got them all. I know some of you despise Liz but she isn't a bad mother like some of you are trying to make her out to be. Accidents happen and this was simply and accident, that's why they call them accident. No one is perfect like you guys.
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vgeneration81		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 88 01/13/08 12:47 PM	psychobunny1 wrote: vgeneration81 wrote: pyschobunny She did. She put them on the Mantal where he couldn't reach but Lucky must of missed some because there was still a few on the floor. This is a soap opera. Should we start question all the parents motives on a soap now? It wasn't some, it was a whole box. As it is Liz's house, it is her responsibility it is child proof. Liz should have been paying more attention. Also sending your child to play in the front yard is dangerous. Seriously, I know you guys hate Liz but bashing just for the sake of bashing her is hillarious. 1. She didn't send her child out side to play in the front yard. She said it her self if you were paying attention that the mother was there watching both child. So no Cam was not alone. Who hasn't sent there child out side to play with a friend and have another mother watching them?? Please i'm curious? 2. Not all mothers have there house child proof and they do fine. So Liz isn't a bad mother just because she dosen't have her house child proof. That has nothing to do with it. All the matches should have been picked up from the floor, it has nothing to do with her house being child proof. The fact is that the matches were not picked up properly!
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